{"id":2579,"date":"2021-04-23T08:30:14","date_gmt":"2021-04-23T15:30:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonavestcapital.com\/podcast\/?p=2579"},"modified":"2022-08-09T14:07:05","modified_gmt":"2022-08-09T21:07:05","slug":"sa158","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bonavestcapital.com\/podcast\/sa158\/","title":{"rendered":"SA158 | Buy and Hold Passive Investing Strategies with Michael Zuber"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"2579\" class=\"elementor elementor-2579\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-292ccb3 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"292ccb3\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;shape_divider_bottom&quot;:&quot;waves&quot;,&quot;shape_divider_bottom_negative&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-background-overlay\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-shape elementor-shape-bottom\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-negative=\"true\">\n\t\t\t<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" viewBox=\"0 0 1000 100\" preserveAspectRatio=\"none\">\n\t<path class=\"elementor-shape-fill\" d=\"M790.5,93.1c-59.3-5.3-116.8-18-192.6-50c-29.6-12.7-76.9-31-100.5-35.9c-23.6-4.9-52.6-7.8-75.5-5.3\n\tc-10.2,1.1-22.6,1.4-50.1,7.4c-27.2,6.3-58.2,16.6-79.4,24.7c-41.3,15.9-94.9,21.9-134,22.6C72,58.2,0,25.8,0,25.8V100h1000V65.3\n\tc0,0-51.5,19.4-106.2,25.7C839.5,97,814.1,95.2,790.5,93.1z\"\/>\n<\/svg>\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-307f24d1\" data-id=\"307f24d1\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0a212e3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"0a212e3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">SA158 | Buy and Hold Passive Investing Strategies with Michael Zuber<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-ffe13ee elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"ffe13ee\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7eaef7d\" data-id=\"7eaef7d\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a472c76 elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"a472c76\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"buzzsprout-player-8389839\"><\/div>\r\n<script src=\"https:\/\/www.buzzsprout.com\/1368325\/8389839-sa158-buy-and-hold-passive-investing-strategies-with-michael-zuber.js?container_id=buzzsprout-player-8389839&player=small\" type=\"text\/javascript\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-885b712 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"885b712\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-f935bc0\" data-id=\"f935bc0\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-900619c elementor-widget elementor-widget-html\" data-id=\"900619c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"html.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\r\n\t<div id=\"podcast-subscribe-button-1033\" class=\"secondline-psb-radius-style secondline-psb-alignment-none\">\r\n\t\t\r\n\r\n<div class=\"secondline-psb-subscribe-icons\"><span class=\"secondline-psb-subscribe-iTunes\"><a title=\"iTunes\" onMouseOver=\"this.style.color=`#000000`; 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Some investors say that it is the best way to manage risk and hold a property for the long term. Today, let\u2019s dive into Michael Zuber\u2019s expertise in managing rental properties and learn more about how you can achieve financial independence through this investment strategy.<br \/><br \/><b>Key Takeaways To Listen For:<\/b><\/p><ul><li>Learning from mistakes to keep going in the business<\/li><li>Barriers in scaling and building up a portfolio<\/li><li>Things you need to do to acquire more rental properties<\/li><li>Why you shouldn\u2019t focus too much on the unit count<\/li><li>Most effective ways to look for the best market to invest in<\/li><li>Other sources of financing that you can utilize to buy rental properties<\/li><li>Benefits of being a real estate investor<\/li><li>Importance of networking and communicating with people to grow<\/li><\/ul><p><b>Resources Mentioned In This Episode:<\/b><\/p><ul><li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mls.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MLS<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realtor.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Realtor.com<\/a><\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zillow.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Zillow<\/a><\/li><\/ul><p><b>About Michael Zuber:<br \/><br \/><\/b>Michael Zuber is a buy and hold investor, based in California, who built his real estate portfolio one rental at a time.\u00a0 He was able to achieve financial freedom at age 45 and is now passionate about helping others believe they can get to \u201c4 rentals\u201d as that can change your family\u2019s life in a huge way.\u00a0<\/p><p>\u2014<\/p><div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f00186b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f00186b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\"><div class=\"elementor-widget-container\"><div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\"><div data-controller=\"convert-links-to-open-in-new-tab\" data-target=\"tabs.panel\" data-tabs-panel=\"description\"><div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f00186b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f00186b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\"><div class=\"elementor-widget-container\"><div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\"><div data-controller=\"convert-links-to-open-in-new-tab\" data-target=\"tabs.panel\" data-tabs-panel=\"description\"><p><strong>Please visit our website:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/bonavestcapital.com\/podcast\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">www.bonavestcapital.com<\/a>\u00a0and please click\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/how-did-they-do-it-real-estate\/id1532853594\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>, to leave a rating and review!<\/strong><\/p><p>\u2014<\/p><p><b>Sponsor:<\/b>\u00a0<em>Thinking About Creating and Growing Your Own Podcast But Not Sure Where To Start?<\/em>\u00a0<em>Visit\u00a0<strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mypodcast.website\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GrowYourShow.com<\/a><\/strong> and Schedule a call with Adam A. Adams<\/em><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c263d61 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"c263d61\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Connect with Michael:<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-79bf548 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"79bf548\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Website:\u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/onerentalatatime.com\/\">One Rental At A Time<\/a><br \/>Book \u201cOne Rental at A Time\u201d available on\u00a0<a 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